Immortality – Curing Disease & Aging, Telomeres, Stem Cells, Testosterone, Vegan Diet [Part 1]

Immortality – Curing Disease & Aging, Telomeres, Stem Cells, Testosterone, Vegan Diet [Part 1]


Nick: So if we think about it, the human body
is designed to live a certain period of time. Right now, there are only 70 people in the
world that are past 110 years of age, only 70 in the entire world. So something happens past 110 where the telomeres
stop replicating, where the mitochondria stops producing energy, where the enzymes start
recycling and the body just ends, much like every animal on the planet. Although there are some animals that live
considerably longer, aren’t there, Dr. Grossman? Michael: We have the one-celled animals that
live forever because they keep dividing, but then, there are animals that will live 150
years. We have trees that live for thousands of years
but those are a process. We don’t know all the information about why
humans don’t live longer, but there’s no good reason that we can’t solve as to why humans
don’t live longer. So we are making a lot of progress to figure
out what it takes human beings to live longer. And we can be immortal. There’s no reason why we can’t. Logically, scientifically, we should be able
to live a long, long time. Nick: If we think about it, right now, they’re
harnessing super computers. Google spent billions of dollars now to figure
out aging and anti-aging and longevity. We’re searching the world literature to find
out what is those missing links. What is it we forgot or missed that we can
put together that will actually improve the quality and the length of life and quite probably,
accomplish, if not immortality, possibly 200, 300, 400 years of life in good health? I know when I first started contemplating
that I could improve my health, it began with hormone decline. And as I started hormonal tests at the young
age of 28, my hormones were starting to decline already by the age of 28. I don’t know of any 28 year olds running around
trying to measure their own hormone levels with doctors to find out where they’re at. But the signs of aging were starting to set
in. Michael: Hormone loss is sort of accepted
as a natural part of aging but there’s no reason why it has to be that way. For unknown reasons, women go into menopause
and we don’t know why it happens in someone at 30 and some woman at 65. But there are many different ages. And right now, the technology is that we can
cheat the aging process by replacing the hormones that are going down. Now in some point, we’re going to have better
technology where we can use stem cells and repair the telomeres so that people stay ongoingly
healthy. But for now, the technology is that if we
replace the hormone levels of people who are getting older back to more youthful levels,
they will feel more youthful in so many ways. So that’s something that I do every day, and
it’s like dramatic. It’s not like subtle. Some things you do are subtle where you feel
better, but hormone replacement therapy is dramatic. So women all the time, when they go into menopause,
90% of women after they’re in menopause for five years, their brain doesn’t work good. They don’t sleep good. They don’t have energy. They don’t have moods. They are irritable. They have no libido. And that’s all reversible with natural human
bioidentical hormone replacement and it’s dramatic how that makes people feel more youthful. And men don’t get that dramatic effect. For men, their testosterone levels and other
hormone levels go down slowly over the period of years. Every five years, it gets worse and worse
and they feel older and older, but they don’t get a sudden change. And for men, when we replace their hormone
levels back to youthful levels, they will get dramatically younger in so many ways,
not just muscle strength and stamina, but brain clarity, enthusiasm. I’ve seen so many men who just lose their
enthusiasm for life. They just feel like they want to retire and
they just don’t want to do things and you give them hormone replacement and they just
feel enthusiastic again. They’re ready to conquer the world. They’re having a great time. Nick: I think you hit it on the nose. It is more than just muscular strength or
your physique. It’s your entire emotional wellbeing. It’s your outlook on life. I know that a certain point, I have a number
of clients that as their hormones decline, including my own grandmother. [0:05:05] She expressed to me after she had fallen and
ended up in a care center, she was crying and she just said “Nicky, I just want to pass. I want to die.” And I said “Grandma Muller [Phonetic], we’re
not ready to lose you and the family’s allowed me to intervene and we’re going to augment
you with hormones and whole foods diet and exercise with your permission or not. The family has decided we want to keep you.” And she was very depressed, crying. So after we did hormone baseline test, we
rubbed bioidentical hormone creams, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, DHEA. So she didn’t even have to take them orally. We just rubbed them right on her skin. We were able to do some subcutaneous, tiny
little needle like they use for diabetics and right under her skin, inject some of these
very important life-promoting hormones. We noticed within a matter of days that she
was coming back. She was starting to smile. She had more energy. She began eating again and we were able to
give her blended drinks of whole organic fruits and vegetables blended because she just wasn’t
up to eating a meal yet, so she was just drinking her meals. And it took us only about, I would say, three,
four weeks and the hospital said that she could leave. And we checked her out to her home. She hired a personal trainer and Grandma Muller
said that she was listening to my cassette tapes. In those days, it was cassette tapes. We didn’t have mp3s and computer systems at
that time that I remembered. And she goes “Nicky, I really love listening
to your tapes.” Because I wanted to fill her mind with positive
thoughts, eating healthy, exercising, giving her kind of that guideline to really get back
into life. And she said “Nicky, I feel so good.” She goes “I hired that personal trainer but
there’s one problem. He makes me work so hard that he makes me
work out in the front lawn with the grass unmown and I have to lift my legs really high,
but man, is he sexy.” I mean, everything came back. She’s 90 and telling me that the personal
trainer is sexy. So you think about it. We were blessed to have her with us another
three or four years until there was another accident, then she got transferred to another
facility and it was very difficult to intervene. As you may know, hospitals and doctors somehow
have a bias against people passed the age of 70, 80, 90. They just say “Well, what do you expect? You’re at the end of your life. Why would you even try and help this person
to recover?” I mean, what if we said that about Einstein
or any of these greats in history that we just give up on them yet we have the technology
now to turn virtually every care center around and augment Delgado Protocol type approach
with herbs and supplements and hormones and positive thoughts, and we probably would curtail
the end stage of death, that it would be instead of a miserable death, it would be a quiet
gentle loving death instead of one where we’re froth with IVs and drugs and pills and they’re
drugged out and can’t even recognize who they are, like they did to my father. Michael: I think that you’re speaking about
a social complexity where the traditional physicians don’t believe that replacing hormones
in a natural way to a youthful level is something that should be done to everybody. And there’s no reason logically why they don’t
believe it. Nick: Well, they say there’s no medical indication
to intervene in hormone deficiency, right? So aging is part of life so deal with it. Sit with it. Go ahead and die early, miserably. Michael: When I was in medical school, 1970s,
I was taught that the reason why women were so depressed when they went to menopause is
because they couldn’t have babies anymore. And that’s why were depressed. That’s what I was taught. I was also taught that people got diabetes
because it was just a genetic event, and when I told them I thought it related to what they
were eating and they were eating too much sugar and Coke and Coca Cola, they laughed
at me. My professors laughed at me. They thought it was funny. They just dismissed me like it was a funny
thing. So we have certain conventional beliefs in
medicine that just because everyone believes it, they think that’s the way it is. It’s clear to people who look at the research
that we can keep people feeling youthful when we use human bioidentical hormone in moderate
doses to replace it. [0:10:12] There’s been so many studies. There were three studies that came out in
the last year. One study was a terrible study that questioned
whether testosterone was good or bad. It wasn’t clear. The other two studies clearly showed that
men lived longer, got less heart disease, got less cancer, less brain dysfunction, live
longer if they have hormone replacement. And there’s so many studies. One study after the other comes out that says
it’s helpful. But the Stanton medical community confuses
synthetic non-bioidentical, non-human hormones like Provera which is medroxyprogesterone
and confuses that with natural human progesterone and says “Well, they’re more or less the same
thing.” They’re not the same thing. One is human and one is synthetic. Nick: And it’s synthetic because the pharmaceutical
company knew they can match progesterone and give it to humans as it was intended, but
they can’t control the money, the prescription, therefore, other pharmaceuticals would release
the same product and they could make a profit. So they had to alter that human — you know
they can take it right from wild yam extract, make it identical to progesterone in a female
that she needs. They have to alter it slightly and tell us,
tell the doctors a lie to you. Michael: So medroxyprogesterone has a value
if you’re bleeding to death, but to use it on a regular basis causes cancer and heart
disease. Nick: The same with hydrocortisone. They changed it even though cortisol’s identical
and it can be made identical when they made it a form of cortisol that lasts even five
milligrams, lasts for days in the body. It’s so dangerous when it’s synthesized that
it’s too potent and it causes harmful side effects. So the medical profession, yet they tell them
that hydrocortisone was a wonder drug for arthritis, for inflammation. It reversed diseases, but when they use the
synthetic version, it was so strong. Initially get got result but then the strength
of it was overwhelming to the body and it had horrible side effects. So doctors gave up on the cortical steroids
is what it’s called essentially, right? Michael: And what you’re saying is absolutely
true about those things. Those cortisone type medicines are a lot of
long term side effects, but they’re very potent. If you have an allergic reaction and you might
be dying, you want the potent stuff so you can survive. But for ongoing use, it’s not a good idea. The other thing that happens is that I will
use as you will use low doses of the hydrocortisone, not full replacement. So the human body may make 25 to 35 milligrams
of hydrocortisone. You could take someone who’s stressed out,
feeling terrible, can’t get up in the morning, can’t function, is irritable, and you can
give them low doses of hydrocortisone, five milligrams to ten milligrams, maybe even up
to 20 milligrams. Nick: Well, the body produces 40 milligrams
a day. So five, ten, 20 milligrams is right in there. Michael: It’s not full replacement but it
supports your own body and then you feel great, but traditional doctors think that that’s
worthless. Either you’re going to overwhelm the body
with these synthetics or give them nothing. They think it’s all or nothing. And you and I know we’ve treated hundreds
and thousands of people. People feel really good temporarily with replacement,
then you get their lifestyle in order, then you get their diet in order. You get them on herbs and you get their own
adrenal glands producing cortisol as they’re supposed to. But in the meantime, they can function and
they feel good and it’s a bridge to get them back to feeling normal. But traditional doctors have this mindset
that either we overwhelm and take over your body with the synthetics or nothing. Nick: Well, Dr. Edwin Lee who’s claimed or
calls himself a reformed endocrinologist. He is now dealt with what they call adrenal
fatigue and his colleagues in endocrinology which is the study of hormones and the specialty
of hormone practice makes fun of it. They said that there’s no such thing as adrenal
fatigue. This doesn’t exist. But he himself experienced it. He started taking hormone replacement such
as hydrocortisone low dose, and he had a dramatic turnaround. He realized that likewise with thyroid. His own wife had a thyroid deficiency. Instead of using the normal Synthroid which
is just T4, he realized he needed the complete complex of T3 and T4 and he gives his wife
what’s called Westhroid and it gives them that full complement, similar to Armour and
he’s treating her thyroid condition in a non-traditional sense which his fellow endocrinologists would
argue that’s not the correct way to do it, and yet he’s seen the results. [0:15:09] So many doctors are now starting to come around
and realizing their error in their ways, and that there is a better way. But really, I want to backtrack for a moment
because the topic of longevity and immortality and quality of life, would you agree that
these six steps here on the slide that they’re actually essential to improving the quality
life? Whole raw foods, food is grown unprocessed,
not in cans and packages, but essentially little or no processing, like a beet is good
for you but the sugar is not, the sugar that comes from the beet. That coconut is good for you but the coconut
oil that comes from it is too concentrated. We’ll have side effects and problems. Olives are good for you. The olive oil has problems. Each of these examples is an example of taking
a whole food and to man intervention, changing that food so much so that it’s not even the
same original food, and many of these processes have only developed in the last, say, 100
years or so, not going back five million if we believe man goes back maybe 10, maybe even
20 million years. Michael: I would agree with that, and I would
add that with modern technology with growing foods and you’d think something’s a whole
food but it’s not because it’s not processed in a natural organic way, and there’s so many
nutrients that are lacking in the foods. So that’s the complexity and you definitely
want to have whole foods as you’re describing it, and even those people who tried to do
it, you need to supplement things frequently with herbs and nutrients to be able to make
up for what should have been in the food but is no longer there. Nick: Yeah, targeted nutrients whether it
be trace minerals or special forms of B vitamins that are highly absorbable that may be, like
you said, the food itself. I remember the experience of going to Indonesia,
in Bali, and looking at the soil, it was so rich and black. Our soil looks like clay. It’s like a light color. It doesn’t have that rich black look. And I remember one of my colleagues said take
a pair of electrodes and stick them, the positive, negative electrode into a carrot or into a
squash and hook it up to a light bulb. And I said “Why?” He said, “Well, if there’s a lot of nutrients
and trace minerals, the light bulb will light up.” So we went ahead and did it and we grabbed
all kinds of fruits and vegetables looked identical to the fruits and vegetables in
our market in Indonesia, in Bali. Stuck the electrodes in and the light was
so bright, we had to literally turn our eyes away because it was that bright. Then we did the same experiment on the same
types of carrots, squash, broccoli, and so forth. Stuck the electrodes in and the light bulb
barely glimmered. You couldn’t even get a light out of it. It was so deficient just by that simple experiment
alone. Michael: Yes, you reminding me when I went
to Southeast Asia, 1970s. I was shocked by the fruit. It was so sweet. It tasted — I’ve eaten mangoes. But this was like not like any mango I’ve
eaten before. Pineapple, not like any pineapple I’ve eaten
before. It’s like a different kind of thing. So that’s a problem with the foods we grow
in America is that the soil is depleted and we do need to supplement what we’re doing. And we can measure things so you and I know
that we’ll measure urinary and saliva pH to make sure that people are eating a diet that
will balance out the physiology that will allow for health in the kidneys, and allow
for health with the enzyme and digestion. So this is something that you can find out
how well you’re eating in a variety of ways that you can measure your pH and tell if you’re
eating enough vegetables that create more alkaline in the body and you can measure antioxidant
levels to see if are you eating enough vegetables to create carotenoids that get stored in your
skin and allow you to have a reservoir of antioxidants. So we can measure variety of methods of looking
at — I find that the average person comes in to see me is terrible deficient in antioxidants,
is not doing well with their alkaline acid balance and some people think that they’re
eating healthy and they’re not. We really have to work at it. It’s not easy. It’s something we have to work on. Nick: I think the number one factor that could
help people, according to the book How Not to Die by Michael Greger, would be to focus
on learning how to identify the right whole natural foods that, in his words, could eradicate
16 of the leading 20 killers almost within instant of just transitioning to that whole
foods, oil-free, natural diet. [0:20:11] Although many of the lifestyle medicine doctors,
they have been led to believe that every nutrients is attainable from the whole foods. In my experience of 40 years of looking under
a microscope at cellular health and doing these various other examinations, I found
that I was deficient as were most of my clients until I learned how to get targeted nutrition
and supplements and herbs and eat the right foods whether they be imported or just getting
a bigger variety of what we call the colors of the rainbow where cauliflower might be
normal white but you can get purple cauliflower. I mean, all these carotenoids and flavonoids,
there’s probably 320,000 different phytochemicals that we can get from eating whole foods, by
eating a greater variety. And the number one most deficient food in
the American diet that would attribute to a better outcome in longevity of life, can
anyone guess what that food is? The main category of food that’s sorely deficient
in the American diet that most people avoid because they think it’s literally bad for
you. They say “Oh, it’s sugar. You can’t eat it.” What is it? I give you a clue. Who said it? Fruit. The average person restricts their fruit intake
and yet Dr. Greger showed that fruit has polyphenols and it stabilizes the blood sugar, the sugars
that you’re eating from the fruit so you won’t become diabetic. In fact, Dr. Kempner, in the 1940s to 50s,
took people and put them on massive amounts of fruit and rice, and they were diabetic,
and they were on insulin, and they had kidney failure. So he was challenged with a number of problems,
but here’s a prestigious university, Duke University, and he had the average person
eating 10 to 20 pieces of fruit a day along with rice. And in the first month, they were prepared
to give them more insulin because they’re like “Oh, my gosh, we’re loading them up with
too much sugar.” That was their mentality as it is to this
day, and they were shocked that within 30 days, the average person was completely off
their insulin and almost normalize their blood sugar, and their insulin requirements dropped
to near zero eating tons of fruit. I encourage everyone to eat more fruit and
there’s a clinical study now that Dr. Greger pointed out in my interview with him and I’ve
looked up the actual journals that shows that just increasing your fruit intake to 10 or
15 — I probably eat 10 or 15 pieces of fruit a day. That means a whole apple, and orange, a mango,
a cantaloupe, well those are bigger portions there, watermelon. You name it, berries. Berries are wonderful. All these fruits are so good and you know
what? The average cup of fruit with exception of
banana and mango which is probably about 100 calories per cup — the average cup of fruit
has only 60 calories. So if you eat ten cups of fruit, that’s only
600 calories. And it tastes so good. It’s high in fiber, high in enzymes, and yet
anyone — let me see a show of hands. How many here eat at least ten pieces of fruit
a day or more? Let me see a show of hands. One person in the entire — two people in
the entire audience. One who’s been in my mentorship who knows
about this, and myself who eats about 10 or 15. This morning, I did a live stream on Facebook
and I weighed myself. About six months ago, it was my goal to achieve
an ideal weight of what I weighed when I was in high school, a running back, a full back
in high school. This morning, I weighed 169. It happens to be my ideal number, my favorite
number, but I weighed 169 this morning and I backtracked and it took me about nine months,
about the same time it takes to make a baby, a human being, and I already patterned out
that I’ll eat massive amounts of grapes, apples, bananas, berries, all kinds of — the best
fruits are the ones high in water content because you bite into the berry and it squirts
all over you. Water has no calories, and the polyphenols
stabilize the blood sugar so I didn’t have any insulin resistance. My insulin levels were measuring under two
doctors. You know under two. Most people have five, seven, and higher,
right? So eating fruit is your number one factor
to longevity in your diet and it’ll help you — how many here need to lose a little bit
of weight? Let me see a show of hands. Oh, look at the hands go quick. So why aren’t you eating at least ten pieces
of fruit a day? Why? Because you’ve been led to believe by the
media that fruit is bad. It’s sugar and you can’t eat it. All these sugar-holic people that are saying
sugar’s the number one risk factor, I’m going to flip that over for you. Maybe Dr. Grossman does or doesn’t agree with
this, but Pritikin taught me this over 40 years ago. He said the number one worst thing you can
consume in your diet is anything high in cholesterol. Number one, because it leads to more strokes,
more heart attacks, more cancer than any other nutrient in the body, and chicken and fish
has as much cholesterol as red meat. So all of you who think, “Well, I don’t eat
red meat. I’m careful about my cholesterol intake.” Really? If you’re getting your plant protein, if you’re
getting your animal proteins instead of plant proteins, you’re loading your body with cholesterol
and clogging your arteries. [0:25:05] Your body can only get rid of 100 milligrams
of cholesterol a day. Anything more than that and it starts to clog
your arteries. If you’re eating plant proteins, there’s no
cholesterol in it, zero. So you can eat as much as you want and not
overload your body with cholesterol. The number two worst food offender is things
high in separated fats, oils and greases, cheeses and meats that are high in fat. Number two worst. Number three worst, anyone have a guess? What’s the number three worst thing you consume
on a regular basis that will harm your body more than anything? I’ll give you a tip. The Chinese study Dr. [0:25:38] [Indiscernible]
in Campbell said it was one of the number one causes of cancer, pancreatic cancer. For example, one of the number one leading
causes of lymphomas and horrible blood cancers and leukemia comes from this particular food
that everyone eats at Kentucky Fried — yeah. Number three worst on the list is over consuming
animal proteins. Number three. Number four would be foods high in sugar. What would be number five worst, but least
worst than the ones above I listed? Any idea? No guesses? Well, dairy is a subgroup of the category. So we said, what was number one? Let’s rehearse. What was number one? Cholesterol. And does cholesterol only come from meat? Name one of the highest sources of cholesterol
that you eat for breakfast. Eggs. Number two, fat, excess fat. Where does excess fat come from? The worst source of fat is excess oils, coconut
oil, olive oil, sunflower oil. It takes hundreds of years of corn to make
small amounts of corn oil so you would — hundreds of olives to make you a little bit of olive
oil. It clumps your blood up. It causes restriction of oxygen. Dr. Terry Grossman, I interviewed him eight
months ago and he said it was my interview with him that caused him to understand this
principle that he was eating too much animal — what’s the worst thing you can eat? Number three? Animal protein. So you switch to plant protein. Dr. Terry Grossman got this clear and I looked
at his blood under the microscope and he said in the last eight months since I interviewed
him, he’s never felt so good, so clear. He dropped 15 pounds of body fat and he is
the doctor to Ray Kurzweil who is the consultant to Google who spends billions of dollars in
trying to figure out aging. And he said Ray eats hamburgers. He eats horrible. And he was sending pictures of his own blood
after following the Delgado Protocol. Is that like really cool? I have to show you. Can we patch into that interview, guys? The Terry Grossman. Did you segment that out, Anthony? Is that possible? At the break can we? Anthony: Yeah. Nick: Cool. Number four. What did we say it was? Cholesterol, fat, protein. What was the fourth worst? Sugar. Gosh, Deborah. Deborah and I met over 20 years ago to Tony
Robbins’ event where I checked her blood and I was testing over a thousand people that
audience and here she is back over 20 years ago, one of my early students. Number five, no one’s figured out what’s the
fifth worst thing on the list. No. We’re talking about categories of — yes,
salt. Salt in excess. If you read the book Our Body’s Many Cries
for Water, you’ll realize a little bit of salt on a high water, high fruit diet, high
plant-based diet that’s not with a lot of canned food loaded with sodium is okay. A little bit of sea salt particularly rich
in trace minerals. So I would put at the bottom of the list,
six, I mean, all the miscellaneous. Well, soda would be part of the sugar thing,
right? I mean, what else? Number six would be additives, food additives,
colors, chemicals, GMO foods. Number six would be just all that host. I mean, we have like thousands of chemicals
in our diet that were never present before, right, Doctor? Michael: Many thousands. Nick: You have a comment, [0:29:29] [Indiscernible] Male: I have a question. So the salt — aren’t you getting the minerals
that you’re trying to get from salt when you take the inorganic ones, aren’t they not really
utilized by the body? Aren’t they the same kind of minerals in fruits
and vegetables? And they’ve been through the soil, the same
like that we’re trying to get in the salt but the plants make them organic, right? [0:30:06] Nick: True. They’re no longer a metal. They become more bio-available to the human. I would go so far as to say in the Sea of
Cortez, there’s eight water vortexes in the world’s oceans, and in these vortexes is a
mix of some amazing concentrations of zooplankton and organic, bio-organic, and trace minerals. And we’re pulling together a product that
has the Sea of Cortez trace minerals. I know when I compete in strength and endurance
that I’m getting ready to compete again in about six weeks because a group of gamblers
are betting a million dollars that their guy can beat me in vertical lifts. You can imagine I just started training hard
on the last two days. Give me about six weeks and I’m going to be
a little serious when you see me here every day getting stronger, faster, better. But I don’t like the idea of someone beating
me in a million-dollar bet. And after that, I’m going to take on the Oakland
Raiders one by one. Whoever think they’re strong enough to beat
me and they are three times — what are they? One-third my age? We’ll see if any human can beat me in this
competition. So we’re going to — yeah. Female: I’ve got another question. Nick: Yeah. Female: So going to the fats and oils and
you talk about coconut oil earlier. So now it’s the big day thing for the MTC. Nick: Can you step up and can we use the runner
mike a moment because I don’t think anyone’s recording in the audience. Will this help with the mike? Male: Yeah, that helps. Nick: Okay, perfect. Go ahead. Female: Okay, so you were talking about coconut
and you’re talking about the oil and how pulling out like the sugar out of beets, et cetera. So what about now, everybody’s doing the coconut
oil in their coffee called Bullet Coffee MTC. Is it MTC? Nick: Yeah. Female: Okay. [0:31:49] End of Audio